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Offline orourke

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OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« on: September 26, 2008, 11:20:27 am »
Greetings!
JOIN the 100th year Annversary of a real military exercise. 

Operations Pine Plains
DATE:   November 7-9, 2008

Operation Pine Plains History:

In 1908, Brigadier General Frederick Dent Grant, son of General Ulysses S. Grant, was sent here with 2,000 regulars and 8,000 militia. He found Pine Plains to be an ideal place to train troops. The following year money was allocated to purchase the land and summer training continued here through the years. The camp's first introduction to the national spotlight came in 1935 when the largest peacetime maneuvers were held on Pine Plains and surrounding farm lands.

Thirty-six thousand, five hundred soldiers came from throughout the Northeast to take part in the exercise. For 36 hours, young men from offices, factories, and farms marched, attacked and defended in tactical exercises on the 100-miles the Army had leased for its war games.

In honor of this 100 year anniversary, we present Operation Pine Plains – Climb to Glory 2008. Once again, young men and women from offices, factories, and farms will march, attack and defend during an 18 hour Military Simulation (MILSIM)/Airsoft competition at the Fort Drum MOUT Collective Training Facility (CTF).


Major Bucciarelli (US Army, Retired) has been working with the folks at Fort Drum, New York for almost six months to coordinate a premier MILSIM/Airsoft competitive event in the Northeast. He has finally received approval to allow us to use the Military Operations on Urban Terrain (MOUT) Collective Training Facility (CTF) - this is a fully instrumented, active duty military urban training facility. We will be putting Operation Pine Plains together. I apologize for the short notice, but with real world deployments we had to work with what they gave us - obviously their mission takes the highest priority.

Operation Pine Plains - Climb to Glory 2008 will rock your MILSIM world! Don't procrastinate on this one - sign up NOW and please post this to other forums.


REGISTRATION WILL OPEN OCT 5th

Final Meeting on Logistics will take place with Fort Drum Staff on Oct 3rd.   

Questions can be e-mailed to info@msato.org


More information will follow but until then here are the highlights:

Overall scenario being designed and run by:   A Retired Major, US Army, Career Infantry Officer and a Former US Army, Special Operator.
CO’s for each side:   Retired Majors, US Army, Career Infantry Officers
Scenario will be based on real training that is used to teach soldiers how to go to war.
MOUT Training will be provided to everyone before the scenario begins.  (This is like getting football training from professional NLF players and coaches)

1. Date: November 7-9, 2008
2. Location: Fort Drum MOUT CTF
3. Scenario: Operation Pine Plains is a force on force, objective oriented, 18 hour continuous tactical simulation
4. Age Restriction: must be 18+
5. Citizenship: must be US citizen
6. Magazine Restriction: mid-cap only
7. Pellet Restriction: biodegradable only
8. Uniforms: Battle Dress Uniform (BDU) or Desert Combat Uniform (DCU)
9. Security: All participants must pre-register. The pre-registered list of participants will be provided to Fort Drum for security screening.
10. Game size: 400 player positions
11. Sign-up and pre-pay: www.msato.org
12. Cost: $175.00 per person
13. Discount Costs: $150.00 per person:
A. Active or Former Military
B. Law Enforcement
C. Medical Professionals willing to help
D. People who sign up with a Squad of 11 players.
E. MSAT Graduates

14. Sponsors and vendors - to be determined, contact us immediately at www.msato.org

Read on for the details



Event Timeline:

Friday 0900 – 1400 Game Staff Set Up
Friday 1400 – 1900 Registration & Chrono (* see note)
Friday 1900 – 2000 Safety & Mission Briefing (AAR)
Friday 2000 – 2400 Assembly Area (AA) Operations
Saturday 0000 – 0700 AA Operations
Saturday 0700 – 0800 Breakfast (optional meal plan)
Saturday 0800 – 1100 AA Operations
Saturday 0900 – 1100 MOUT Train-the-Trainer Class (AAR)
Saturday 1100 – 1200 Lunch (optional meal plan)
Saturday 1200 – 1500 MOUT Training (CTF)
Saturday 1500 – 1600 AA Operations
Saturday 1600 – 1700 Formation & Movement to “BOX”
Saturday 1700 – 2400 Operation Pine Plains (CTF)
Sunday 0000 – 1100 Operation Pine Plains (CTF)
Sunday 1100 – 1200 Scoring & AA Operations
Sunday 1200 – 1300 Formation & Results
Sunday 1300 – UC Departure & travel
Sunday 1300 – UC Clean up & MOUT CTF clearance

Task Organization:

Team A (200 positions):
Commander – 1 position
First Sergeant – 1 position
Company HQ – 5 positions
Weapons Squad – 9 positions (SL, 2 sniper teams and 2 grenadier teams)
1st Platoon – 46 positions (PL, PSG, 4 each squads of 11)
2nd Platoon – 46 positions (PL, PSG, 4 each squads of 11)
3rd Platoon – 46 positions (PL, PSG, 4 each squads of 11)
4th Platoon – 46 positions (PL, PSG, 4 each squads of 11)

Team B (200 positions):
Commander – 1 position
First Sergeant – 1 position
Company HQ – 5 positions
Weapons Squad – 9 positions (SL, 2 sniper teams and 2 grenadier teams)
1st Platoon – 46 positions (PL, PSG, 4 each squads of 11)
2nd Platoon – 46 positions (PL, PSG, 4 each squads of 11)
3rd Platoon – 46 positions (PL, PSG, 4 each squads of 11)
4th Platoon – 46 positions (PL, PSG, 4 each squads of 11)

Sponsors and vendors – to be determined.

Operation Pine Plains Scenario:

Two opposing factions within the community seek to gain dominance over the population.

On Saturday from 1500- 1700 units move into their command posts located in buildings 12 & 13 in the MOUT CTF. Command posts are off limits to opposing forces. Command posts will be used as “respawn” areas to regenerate and remission squad sized units. Command posts are the entry points for all resupply activities.

On Saturday at 1600 sniper teams (two per side) move into the MOUT CTF.

Operation Pine Plains STARTEX at 1700 Saturday.

Buildings will be assigned point values. Each team must develop a tactical strategy to acquire buildings and hold them until the end of the game. High value objectives – such as simulated dignitaries and treasure – will also be designated and assigned point values. High value objectives must be secured and held until the end of the game. High value objectives are not allowed to be moved to the command post. At the end of the game scores will be tallied and a winner determined.

The “medic rule” will be used to maintain unit integrity, provide a fluid tactical scenario and reinforce squad tactical fire and maneuver. Each squad will have two medics designated, one per fire team. When a player is “hit”, a medic can regenerate the “wounded” player after one minute. If a medic is “hit”, another medic can regenerate the “wounded” medic after one minute or another player can regenerate the “wounded” medic after five minutes. If an entire squad is “wounded”, they must move as a squad to their respective command post to be regenerated after 10 minutes and then remissioned or get a medic from another squad to regenerate “wounded” personnel at one minute per player and 5 minutes per medic. A red flag designates wounded players.

Physical contact between participants is prohibited.

No role players are planned for this operation. Operation Pine Plains is a force-on-force, objective-oriented, 18-hour tactical simulation.

A cease fire will be called for 0200-0600 Sunday at the MOUT CTF. Each team will hold positions and rest. Special missions will be conducted during this period. These “special missions” will be squad sized reconnaissance and retrieval operations.

Operation Pine Plains ENDEX at 1100 Sunday.



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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2008, 10:34:05 pm »
Gentlemen,

I invite you to join us at Operation Pine Plains.  I'm sorry for the short notice, but it is what the Army gave us to work with.

Operation Pine Plains is a force-on-force, objective oriented, 18 hour continuous tactical simulation at one of the US Army's premier urban training facilities. There will be 8 hours of professionally run MOUT training for all attendees.  I say professional because it won't be "veteran" airsofters doing the training but actual US Army trainers.  Ten total, most E7 through E9!

Please join us on our website for more information!

http://oppineplains.chairsoft.net/

And please, spread the word around!




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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2008, 11:58:57 pm »
hmmm......thinking

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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2008, 12:46:06 pm »
HOLY WOW!  That's a beautiful field you have yourselves! 

Wish I could spare the $175 to be there!
I do AEG tech work, experienced with V2 and V3 gearboxes, PM me if you need work done.

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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2008, 12:54:53 pm »
HOLY WOW!  That's a beautiful field you have yourselves! 

Wish I could spare the $175 to be there!

Get 11 players together and register as a squad.  The price comes down to $150 a head at that point.

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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2008, 01:46:09 pm »
HOLY WOW!  That's a beautiful field you have yourselves! 

Wish I could spare the $175 to be there!

Get 11 players together and register as a squad.  The price comes down to $150 a head at that point.

I could do my best!
I do AEG tech work, experienced with V2 and V3 gearboxes, PM me if you need work done.

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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2008, 01:53:52 pm »
wish I could go, but thats tooooo damn far for me to travel for a game...
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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2008, 02:04:49 pm »
I will let the Unit know...

sorta last min...


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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2008, 02:07:21 pm »
I will let the Unit know...

sorta last min...



SU sounds familiar.  Where do you I know it from?  Irene 3, 4, or 5? Battle for Tolland 3?  Tribal Wars 07 or 08?

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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2008, 04:42:50 pm »
will we have access to the entire MOUT? Irene 5 we didnt. Pyro? Vehicles?

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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2008, 04:46:27 pm »
will we have access to the entire MOUT? Irene 5 we didnt. Pyro? Vehicles?

I'm not the one to ask but I have been talking to the event producer via phone almost once a day about it.  From what I have heard, we will probably have access to multiple light vehicles such as HMMWV and M35, although their usefulness in such a situation can be regarded as menial, but they definitely add to the immersion factor.  I'm not sure about pyro though, I haven't heard anything about it in either way.

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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2008, 07:41:04 pm »
kinda super late notice actually

is this the first airsoft event held at this facility?  have the organizers ever done an event of this size before?



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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2008, 11:10:57 am »
I am one of the event organizers and I have run events with close to 400 before.  Major Bucciarelli is a retired infantry officer and has run military exercises with 1000's of troopers.

This is the first time the Fort Drum MOUT CTF has been open to airsofters and it is because of Major Bucciarelli.





Registration closes in 11 Days!


Please take the time this weekend and Register your information on the Op Pine Plain website.  http://oppineplains.chairsoft.net/news.php .

 There are only 11 days left before we have to close Registration. 

I need everyone’s help to step up and register.  Payment doesn’t have to be in until Oct 22nd but register now.   Even if you are part of a team EVERY ONE MUST SIGN UP and provide their information.
1.   I have to fill out paperwork for all players.
2.   I need to turn in the list of players who will be on the base to the US Army 2 weeks before the event.
3.   They will be doing a check on all players to make sure you are not on the watch list.
4.   I need to send you and have you sign a release for the US Army before you get on the base. 
5.   I also will need to send people a card they will need to place on the dash board of their vehicle. This shows you are allowed to be in the in the Fort Drum training area and heading to the  MOUT CTF area.  If you do not have this and you get stopped it will cost you $75 for each time you get stopped. 


If you are having issues registering please contact Yuka at    yuka@chairsoft.net   

If players on your team do not have computer access please register for them or contact Crossfire at  crossfire@msato.org



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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2008, 05:12:33 pm »
11 days...cant do it. Give us a couple months next time, thanks.

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Re: OP Pine Plains- Fort Drum, NY: MOUT CTF Nov 7-9, 2008
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2008, 10:07:22 pm »
we are hoping things go well with this event and we will re-apply to hold another event.  You have to understand that dealing with the US Army and working around their deployment schedule we can not plan out months at this point. 

We were bumped once because of troops going to Afghanistan.  This is an active deployment base.

If we ever get to do it again we will again provide as much notice as possible based on the US Army notification.

Hope we can do it again and you will be able to make it.

Thanks for the interest