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Offline Redtail

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Why was my thread about silencers deleted?
« on: June 08, 2010, 03:46:45 pm »
Recently, there have been a handful of threads regarding the purchase, installation, or fabrication of functioning sound suppression devices for airsoft guns. All of these have eventually been deleted from the board. Perhaps if you were involved, you might be wondering why. Perhaps you were waiting on information, or you'd posted a how-to for someone.

As many of you know, the BATF defines a "firearm silencer" as the following:

(24) The terms "firearm silencer"
and "firearm muffler" mean any device
for silencing, muffling, or diminishing
the report of a portable firearm,
including any combination of parts, designed
or redesigned, and intended for
use in assembling or fabricating a firearm
silencer or firearm muffler, and any
part intended only for use in such assembly
or fabrication.


This pretty explicitly defines anything designed to attach to the muzzle of your gun and reduce your report as a silencer. 
THe following is taken directly from the same BATF publication:

(M30) Are Paintball and/or Airgun
Sound Suppressers NFA firearms?
The terms "firearm silencer" and
"firearm muffler" mean any device for
silencing, muffling, or diminishing the
report of a portable firearm, including
any combination of parts, designed or
redesigned, and intended for use in
assembling or fabricating a firearm
silencer or firearm muffler, and any
part intended only for use in such
assembly or fabrication.
Numerous paintball and airgun silencers
tested by ATF’s Firearms
Technology Branch have been determined
to be, by nature of their design
and function, firearm silencers.
Because silencers are NFA weapons,
an individual wishing to manufacture
or transfer such a silencer must receive
prior approval from ATF and
pay the required tax. See Questions
M15 and 16 for application details.
If I have any further questions as
to the classification of a paintball
or airgun silencer, who should I
contact?
Please send a written request to
ATF’s Firearms Technology Branch.
[18 U.S.C. 921(a)(24), 26 U.S.C. 5845(a),
27 CFR 479.11]


I'm avoiding using any names here because the affected parties most likely did not know any better.
It should be well known by now that transfer of suppressors, or transfer of the knowlege of how to manufacture suppressors, is explicitly outlawed by the BATF, and thus, is a federal crime. This is a very, very big deal, and none of us wants to be tied back to this 15 years down the line when we're trying to get a high-paying job that requires a background check.

Making a suppressor without proper BATF permits can land you in federal prison and ruin your criminal record.
It doesn't matter if it's "only for a replica", since the definition extends to anything that can theoretically be attached to anything defined as a firearm with the intent of reducing muzzle reports. This includes anything as ridiculous as a paper towel tube, half of a teddy bear, and a roll of electrical tape if they're used inappropriately.


If your thread was deleted, we apologize for the inconvenience. We apologize in advance for the inconvenience of all future threads relating to construction of suppressors being deleted as well, because it *will* happen.
Please do not re-post your question on these boards, or share, solicit, or link information regarding the purchase, construction, or design of anything other than purely cosmetic suppressors.

Barrel extensions obviously do not count as suppressors, nor will questions about fitting or selecting barrel extensions be treated as such.

THank you.

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